The Estate of Peter Kreitzer (1805)

This family is a work in progress.  Although I've been to Pennsylvania several times finding them in public records is a challenge. I'm hoping to get back there in the near future (2012?) to help figure out the rest of the information missing here.  As most genealogy research is...  its ongoing.  IF you have ties to this family I'd love to hear from you.  Leave a comment on the blog or email me at karenATmiprofgenieDOTcom. 

Family Group Record for Peter Kreitzer

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Husband: Peter Kreitzer
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Born: Abt 1718 - Germany
Christened:
Died: Abt Jan 1798
Buried:
Marriage: Bef 1746
Place: Probably Pennsyvania
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Wife: Anna Gish
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Born: Bef 1731
Christened:
Died: Bef 3 May 1802
Buried:
Father: Mathias (Mattes) Gish (1710-Bef 1743)
Mother: Catrina (Catherine) Bauer (1709-1771)
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Children
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1 M Johannes Michael (John) Kreitzer
Born: 22 Sep 1746
Spouse: Sarah [--?--] (Bef 1765- )
Marr. Date: Bef 1780
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2 M Michael Kreitzer
Born: Bef 1763
Spouse: Susanna Maria Lutzin (Luntz) (Bef 1766- )
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3 M Andreas (Andrew) Kreitzer
Born: 21 May 1751 - Stouchsburg, Berks County, Pennsylvania
Died: 5 Dec 1837 - Stouchsburg, Berks County, Pennsylvania
Buried: - Altalaha Evangelical Lutheran Church Cemetery, Rehrersburg,
Berks County, Pennsylvania*
Spouse: Anna Maria Weber (1755-1822)
Marr. Date: 20 Apr 1773 - Christ Evangelical Lutheran Church, Stouchsburg,
Berks County, Pennsylvania
Spouse: Catharina [--?--] (Bef 1786- )
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4 M Peter Kreitzer
Born: 22 Nov 1756 - Pennsylvania
Died: 22 Sep 1836 - Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, Ohio
Buried: - Salem Evangelical Lutheran Church, Jefferson Township,
Montgomery County, Ohio
Spouse: Elisabeth [--?--] (1755-1847)
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5 F Anna Kreitzer
Born: 1746 - Pennsylvania
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6 F Mary Kreitzer
Born: 1766 - Pennsylvania
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7 M Abraham Kreitzer
Born: 1768 - Pennsylvania
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8 F Susanna Kreitzer
Born: 1770 - Pennsylvania
Spouse: Jacob Ratz ( - )
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9 M Jacob Kreitzer
Born: 1772 - Pennsylvania
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10 F Elizabeth Kreitzer
Born: 1776 - Pennsylvania
Spouse: Abraham Beahm ( - )
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11 M Christian Kreitzer
Born: 1778 - Pennsylvania
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12 F Katharine Kreitzer
Born: 1780 - Pennsylvania
Spouse: Jacob Sahm ( - )

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General Notes: Husband -
Peter Kreitzer and his brother, Andreas (1714-1785) left Germany in 1738 landing in Philadelphia.They were on the ship, The Charming Nancy which  supposedly docked in Philadelphia on 9 NOV 1738 from Rotterdam. Peter's wife, Anna Mary was the daughter of Mathias Kish and the granddaughter of Christian Kish.
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Following is an abstract from Lancaster County Pennsylvania Deeds, 1 Oct. 1762.

Christian Kish (Gish) & W. Sophia of Lebanon tp rel. to Peter Kreitzer of
Warwick. tp. L361. 170a-Warwick tp: 3 tracts No new description Pat. 107a 18
May 1743 to Mathais Kish (Keach)-adj. owners. (note variations in spelling of
surname) Leonard Graw, Jacob Klein, Urick Suck; also pat. of 23a 10 Oct. 1750
to Michael Kish-adj. owners: Mathias Kish other land; by warrant 13 Nov. 1751
survey to Mathais Kish 40a, no description. Mathias Kish d. intestate [sic],
leaving issue, Christian (eldest son), Anna, John, Katharine, Abraham, Jacob,
David & Anna Maria; Katharine widow of Mathais. At Orphans Ct. 25 March 1761
lands above to be sold being, appraised at L350 & Christian Kish was to pay the
other shares within 12 months, & Christian having paid off these shares to Anna
who married Peter Kreitzer (Creitzer) & John Kish who have attained 21 years &
having secured payment of other children-Katherine, Abraham, Jacob David and
Anna Maria by agreement of their guardians.
/s/Christian Lauer
/s/Conrad Mark
/s/Christian Kish

Onward We Go!

I love the thrill of the hunt. Give me something to chase and I am off like a rocket! Something about the chase - the hunt - I can't really explain it.

I've got all the stuff I brought back from the trip - folders of obituaries to type and notes to transcribe, images to link. But as all genealogists know, one find usually leads to more questions. It really doesn't solve the real issue at all does it?

On the trip I went to Berks County, Pennsylvania to research my Kreitzers. My grandmother, Pauline was a Kreitzer. Her line came from Berks County, Pennsylvania into Germantown, Montgomery County, Ohio.

With the finding of Thomas Kreitzer's baptismal record linking him to Peter Kreitzer/Kratzer/Cruetzer in Berks County, the real work now begins. Filling in the holes. In some preliminary work I figured out that Peter Kreitzer & his wife Elisabeth definitely had at least 7 children. I've managed to locate the birth on all of them, and the death on 3 of the 7. I have marriage dates & locations on all but one, Johann George. So I'm not doing too bad there.

Peter is the son of Peter Sr. & his wife, Anna Gish. If you remember Anna is the daughter of Mathias Gish, whose family was featured in a blog that was co-authored by my friend & cousin, Mike. Mike's African-American link into the Gish family makes us sixth cousins.

Peter & Anna Gish Kreitzer are the parents of 12 children. I wish I could say I had done as well with them as I had with the issue of Peter Jr. of the 12 children, 3 now have definite dates for their birth, two have definite death dates & burial locations. Only four have marriages.

So the work continues on this family. You know what they say, When the going gets tough, the tough get going - so I best get off this blog and get busy!

Happy Researching!
Karen

Relatively Speaking - A New Twist

Today's Relatively Speaking - A New Twist, has been several years in the making. Its a long story so stick with me and you'll see exactly what I mean.

Lets start with a guest, his name is Mike - a very good friend of mine from the Ford Genealogy Club. So here is Mike's story.

Ten Years Ago

Ten years ago, I wrote a message board query asking for information on African-American Gish families in Muhlenberg Co. and surrounding counties in Kentucky, circa 1865. I was hoping someone had a document listing the names of Gish slaves. I had been looking for documents that tied my Gish slave ancestors to their slave owner.

By the time I had written the internet query, I had already contacted about a dozen Gish families by more traditional methods – letters, phone, and even e-mail. I got great responses from the people contacted, but unfortunately, no information on Gish slaves. I fact, I got feedback that most (many?) Gish’s were member of the Brethren Church and didn’t own slaves. Well I was living proof that some Gish, somewhere did.

Four months after my query I received a reply from a new found Gish cousin that had a Union Army enlistment document connecting my great grand uncle James Henry Gish to the slave owner Joseph O. Gish. That was the key that opened the door to the other side of my Gish family, which now includes a fellow genealogy club member.

Over The Years

Mike & I were both members of the Ford Genealogy Club. One night during a roundtable discussion at a club meeting Mike mentioned that he was researching the Gish family - we compared notes.

After comparing gedcoms & notes - we shared headstone photo's & pictures of the family farms, newspaper clippings & obituaries - we discovered we share an ancestor. His name is Mathias Gish.

If you take a minute and scroll back to the top of the page to the image there - my ancestor is Anna Gish Kreitzer and Mike's ancestor is Christian Gish her brother. Joseph O. Gish, the great grandson of Christian Gish took his family & migrated to Muhlenberg, Kentucky. Mathias Gish and his family migrated to this country from Germany into Philadelphia in Sept of 1733 where Mathias Gish took the oath of Allegiance to this country. They settled in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania where many of the Gish family still live today.

If you are a Gish descendant of African American descent you can contact Mike at msaulsberry@peoplepc.com or if you would like to contact me about the Gish or Kreitzer family you may leave a comment on the blog.

What an amazing find - two people whose ancestors connected so many years ago - coming together over a roundtable at a genealogy club meeting hundreds of miles from where it all began so many years ago! If this isn't Relatively Speaking then I don't know what is!

Happy Researching!

Karen